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Well,  Thanks to Mr. E  I am back on the web site.  Harvest is over with better than expected yields, but really poorish prices.  Fall field work looks questionable due to wet weather, so, a little time to play.   The other day I was taking some Corn to our local elevator, so I pulled out my flip phone to let them know I was coming, and the guy on the other end didn't sound like the guys, nor did they answer with the elevators' name and greeting.  So, I said ...is this the elevator? and the answer was.... no, this is Joe, what are you doing?  How this happened I have no clue, but we chatted for a few minutes.  One of the comments we discussed was, I was under the belief that all Cub Jr.s' and early K's did not have Wallis cast into the Block.  Joe did reply to this, however my MF1135 is a bit loud.  Joe's early K has Wallis cast into it.   One other thing I forgot to mention to you Joe is that also have a belt pulley shield for a K.  If I remember, Erv borrowed it for a pattern, a few years back.  Wow, just ramble on Tim,  Well till I think of something else ... Happy Trails,  Tim

RE:Wallis Tractors

Here is a photograph recently sent to me by David Parfitt for posting here on the "Wallis" thread, hopefully all the Wallis experts will examine closely and comment.
 
It is a tractor working in Italy and we think it was possibly a Cub Junior originally and then subject to a local blacksmith / farmer modification on the steering and front axle to make it a wide front.

We look forward to all your thoughts and comments.

Malcolm.
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This Wallis thread seems rather quiet this winter time, so here is another photograph which hopefully will get the Minnesota Wallis Collectors talking. Expect Tom Seaberg has all the information on this demonstration in his neighbourhood.
 
Its a tractor demonstration on May 7th 1920 in Albany MN and as you can see the Wallis K was there in the middle of the line up.

This is another photo sent to me by David Parfitt some time ago.

Malcolm.

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Here's one to get you Wallis and early Massey guys wheels turning. I think it's an early pacemaker, but I'm not sure, could be a 12-20? Sits a couple miles outside my hometown here in Michigan, not mine but I do dream of rescuing it someday. It does say Massey Harris across the top of the radiator.
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Thanks for posting MasseyIzzy, hope your enjoying the discussion on here and please join in and post photo's.

Yes the picture you have posted is an un-styled green Pacemaker of the 1936 / 37 era, shame to see it just sitting out in the elements with no cover, so hope you or someone soon rescues it and brings it back to life and full running order. The longer it sits out there the worse it will get.


There is a lot of information on the Pacemaker's in other threads on this site, hope you have found and read them all. 

Malcolm

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Thanks I'm excited to be here, and I want to try and buy it, but can't seem to figure out who owns it.

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Here is Cub Junior number 10340 seen out for the first time this weekend at Newby Hall Rally in North Yorkshire. 
This tractor was one of three saved from going to scrap and part of a French museum collection, it has been subject to a major restoration and is consecutive serial number to one of my projects.

Malcolm.









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Malcolm,

Glad to see they got the Cub jr from France up and running, it must inspire you a bit to keep plugging away on yours. Would be nice to see them sitting next to each other someday at a show with the consecutive serial numbers.

Hasn't been much on here lately in terms of early Wallis so I thought I would give this thread a bump. I picked up a pretty nice ad for the Plow works Motor Cultivator the other day and was somewhat surprised when looking at the picture closer. I know I've seen this picture many times before but just never paid much attention to it. I noticed this machine has the front fork off a Cub jr just on backwards with the same chain steering just on the opposite side. the thing that really surprised me is the front wheel has round spokes not flat spokes and this is an ad from July 1919. I know I will never own one of these Motor Cultivators but I would really love to have the "Plow in Hand" steering indicator! it would be a very nice addition to my Bear collection.

Looking in Keith's book it lists this as having a "Wisconsin" engine, most all Wisconsin engines that I've ever seen are air cooled. I am thinking this tractor would have had a Waukesha inline 4 cylinder engine in it. Any Ideas on that guess? It cranks from the front and uses a radiator so definitely not air cooled.

The Motor Cultivator was to have it's first showing at the National Tractor Demonstration back in 1919 at Wichita, Kansas. Must not of had a very good turnout as I think that was the beginning and the end of the Motor Cultivator as we know it.

Would really love to have on in my collection no matter what shape it's in.

Joe
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Joe,

Thanks for posting the close ups of that ad, as you say we have seen that one photo many times but must say I have never looked closely at it, just shows its amazing what we miss and some very significant detail you pointed out there including the Plow in Hand steering indicator, imagine the interest if one of those turned up on ebay.

I suppose I-H, Avery and all the other motor cultivator manufacturers were established before the J I Case machine was offered, would be great to think one or parts of have survived somewhere in North America.

I am sure I have seen some early Wisconsin water cooled engines in early gas tractors, but Waukesha seemed more popular in the early 1920's.

Keep on hunting Joe.

Malcolm.
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Just to keep your Wallis adrenaline running Joe, here are some photo's of the latest cylinder head which has been to the "Massey Machine Shop" for reseating of the valves and a new set of your springs fitted. Note the lovely set of "Wallis" valves which will be hidden again when the head goes on the tractor.

Malcolm.
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