Massey Talk

engine 4 wheel drive

jimmie — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:21:06 GMT

I would like to know what model Hercules engine went in the 1929 or 1930 massey general purpose tractor

thanks Jim.

Gene Shoup Auction

Lloyd "Bub" Robbins — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:33:31 GMT

Did anyone make it to the Gene Shoup auction held on Aug. 14 ?? Interested in how the Massey's sold. Thanks for any info. Bub

Parrett question

David Parfitt — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:26:43 GMT

A friend is restoring a Parrett with serial number 14254, Buda engine no. HTU1476 and flat-spoke rear wheels. All the surviving Parretts I have come across so far have serial numbers below 2000 and round-spoke wheels (although I see there was a Model K 15-30 tested at Nebraska in 1920 with serial no. 4000). Does anyone know what model the Parrett with the 5-digit serial number could be?

Many thanks

David

Bob's Massey Day's

john farnworth — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:12:17 GMT

We have just had a fabulous weekend. Bob Parke, one of the UK's biggest M-H tractor collectors arranged a Massey feature event in conjunction with his local vintage club -"The Starting Handle Club" over in Norfolk in the east of England. Normally the club has a summer event for all makes etc but Bob wanted a big Massey feature. So he invited the club to use his place for the regular show plus a Massey feature. Well, Bob did us proud. No attention to detail was overlooked - he even arranged fantastic weather.

Bob has about 40 M-H tractors and he got about 30 of them out and invited other Massey collectors such as myself and Malcolm Robinson to bring something along. Malcolm took his No. 3. He carried it about 100 miles down from near Lincoln where he lives on a trailer pulled by his modern MF tractor. What a trip! It took him a bit over 3 hours and the tractor tyres were red hot on arrival!

I had a longer trip - 310 miles - so took along my smallest MH tractor the 812 Pony Vineyard made in France. Not too heavy so made for an easier journey. I also took a load of my cast iron memorabilia and books for a stall. There are I believe only about three of these in the UK and Bob didn't have one so it complemented his line up.

There were also Fergusan and Massey Ferguson tractors, other makes not to be mentioned here, classic and vintage cars, commercial vehicles and a large steam engine in full steam.

MH's full tractor history was well represented starting with a big Bull and Parrett, Sawyer Massey, Malcolm's No 3, the Wallis and Massey U frames, 3 GPs and plenty of war time and poast war tin ones.

I will post some photos of the tractors here, but one at a time as I don't know how to post more than one at once.

First Bob's Sawyer Massey 11-22 which he acquired last year

New book MF 500s

john farnworth — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:57:07 GMT

Just thought I would let you know that I have just had my advance copy of my new book from the printers in China. The bulk will be available on sale end of August-ear;y September:

"The MF 500 Era. The tractors, the times and their implements"

Chapters:

Introduction to the MF 500 tractors

The Cab

MF 500 tractor specifications

Modifications to specifications

Experiences of MF employees in the MF 500 era

The MF 595 Turbocharger

ROC tractors - "Rehabilitation, Overhaul and Certification

MF implements and machines of the period

Training - "Features of the MF 500 series tractors"

MF 500 tractors at work - From the MF Photo Archives

The Survivors

The Polish Project

The Tractor Series after the MF 500s

271 pages. Hard back. Highly illustrated. ISBN No.978 1 904686 17 0.

Massey Harris Implements.

Malcolm Robinson — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:08:42 GMT

I am pleased to see more emphasis being put towards attached implements behind antique tractors at shows, the visiting public now are so remote from agriculture here in UK and to have an implement behind a tractor helps to portray what the tractor actually did in it's working day. There has been so many good implements go for scrap during the recent high metal prices, this will make collecting more difficult in the future, or maybe those implements we have already collected will get to be more valuable??

I will show you a few M-H implements seen out around the UK shows so far this year

First a very nicely restored M-H grain drill at the East of England Show near Peterborough, this is quite a rare M-H drill with wooden wheels and steel grain box.

Malcolm.

What Is It !?!?

MasseyH — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:44:04 GMT

I just returned from the Indiana State Fair set up and antique tractors are beginning to arrive for display. To say the least, I tractor came in today that I had never seen before. It is a Massey Ferguson 165 like no other. Supposedly it was factory made in 1965. I will take pics of it tomorrow to see how you do in identifying it.

Check back!!

Gary

Looking forward to Pickneyville

Dakota Super-90 — Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:30:20 GMT

Just brought home an MF-65 to park next to our Super-90. Plan to restore both so will be picking the brains of the more experienced at Pickneyville. My boss keeps trying to get me to work on those dates but I'm holding out strong. Really looking forward to to it.

wayne.............................

Massey Harris model 11 side delievery rake

massey44 — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 21:23:52 GMT

Going to get a no.11 massey rake tomorrow! Its in very good shape! Will try to get a pic when get it home!!

Wallis Bear

David Parfitt — Mon, 02 Aug 2010 12:00:00 GMT

I'm working on improving the Wallis page on my website, but I've run into difficulties already with the Wallis Bear. The first mention I can find of it (as the Wallis "Bear") is an announcement in the "Implement & Tractor" journal from 1902. This date is also cited in a later M-H/Wallis 20-30 brochure, where it says the following:

"In the year 1902, realizing the advantages of the 4 cylinder fast moving tractor over the heavy, slow, steam or single cylinder type, a tractor was built, later to be known as the Wallis Bear - it pulled ten fourteen-inch plows."

I can't find any further mention of the Bear until around 1912, when it is put into production. I notice that the sole surviving example has an engine with the words "H.L.F. Trebert Patent" on it - a search of Google Patents produces an application for a 4cyl engine design filed by Trebert in 1908 and granted in 1911.

My questions are: What happened to the Bear between 1902 and 1912? Who was responsible for the 1902 design and what kind of engine would it have had? And was the Bear produced at Cleveland, Ohio; Racine, Wisconsin; or both?

Any help would be much appreciated.

All the best

David

International For Real

MasseyH — Mon, 02 Aug 2010 00:53:20 GMT

Well I did something today I thought I would never do!! First I found a MH 820 Pony Manual on the German eBay site. Of course everything was in German. Since I am so fluent in German (NOT) I bid on it and won. Of course later I find out the instructions said they would only ship to Europe. I sent a note to the owner and surprising he responded and agreed to mail it to me. Now the interesting part was he could not speak or read English nor I German. Of course, leave it to the computer!! There is a translator and we translated our notes. It was a very interesting experience!! I did translate my note from English to German back to English and the text got changed a little - like Vineyard became Estate but hopefully he will make sense out of it.

Now we just wait to see if I ever get the manual!!

Gary

#37 plow delivery

Bob Lyons — Sun, 01 Aug 2010 19:14:44 GMT

I am looking for a hauler to bring a MH #37 three bottom mounted plow from Ava, IL (18 miles from Pickneyville, IL) to Portland, IN. I will pay $100.00 and pick up the plow at the Tri-State Engine Show. Anybody have extra room for a 3 point 3 bottom plow? Thanks. Bob

How many Massey Harris 55 Hi Altitudes were built?

Kyle Ladowski — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:50:40 GMT

I am wondering how many were built....my tractor and crawler price guide lists 268 MH 44 hi alt, but nothing on the 55. Anyone ever see one?

Thank you,

Kyle

Cream Seperator

Joe Poncelet — Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:02:50 GMT

Ok here we go, John, Malcolm, or keith O in all your travels have you ever ran across a cream seperator like this? If so can you tell a model # or size? Also would anyone have a picture of what this model would look like complete? I am not sure if this model ever had a bowl on the top or if it was small enough it did not use a bowl. Most I have seen had a bracket off the back to hold the bowl on the top but It doesn't appear to have have one.

Yuma auction tractors.

tseaberg — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:21:06 GMT

Is there any chance any of you fellow massey collectors know where these two tractors made it to after the yuma auction?

Thanks for any help!

The plow sports new paint

toyboy — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 02:46:07 GMT

I have one more coat of yellow to put on the wheels and then the yellow will be done. I wasn't sure i had the right paint when i first applied it. Looks alot like JD yellow until it dries. Then i will finish priming the odds and end. I still have to fab a set a handles. I am going to load the plow up and spend a day at the fab shop where my cousin works.

A long ways to go, but thought some activity would be good for around here.

Aaron

Kruse International

Steve333 — Tue, 19 May 2009 14:23:30 GMT

Just see some information that foreclosure could happen to Kruse. Also that he's being sued by some of the people that he had auctions for because of lack of payment. I got this info from the Dekalb Star.

Steve

What M-H plow is this. Part 2 (New info)

toyboy — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 00:48:01 GMT

Ok guys.

New info, part number on clutch houseing is not 286 or 296. After sandblasting the plow it is clearly 236.

Also, this was on the moldboard of the plow. It is hard to read, and i incovered it from the rust and dirt when i was sandblasting.

This is the 236 part #.

MH 101-102???

john farnworth — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:30:24 GMT

We have recently purchased what is definietly an MH 101 Senior tractor as verified by its serial number being 360134 which gives it the year

of 1944. However the same serial number tag has above the number 102 SS or maybe GS. Can anyone explain this please?

Thanks

John

sign in

jimmie — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 23:32:37 GMT

To the people who fixed the web site so we can sign in again

THANK YOU; Jim.

Massey H

Steve333 — Thu, 27 May 2010 20:19:05 GMT

Heard your favorite auctioneer has lost his license. Hope you're not too broken up about it. LOL

What M-H plow is this?

toyboy — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:27:50 GMT

Howdy, new here. Trying to put a model to my plow, and also looking to find out what color scheme this model was painted it. I am in the middle of repairing it right now, and plan to paint it. This is a video of it in use last fall. As you can see it is missing some parts and not set right.

So, what is it? I am stumped.

Thanks

You can see a couple angles of the plow in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvS6zi6xhxM

Im Back!!!

MasseyH — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 02:13:00 GMT

I was able to log in!! Thank J&J for making it happen!! I know this is a pain for you but you guys are doing a great job!!

Now I can try to catch up!!

Thanks agin J & J.

Gary

Looking for decent fenders for Massey-Harris 22

jwb53 — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:57:06 GMT

Hey guys,

The guy that bought my old place in Columbus is helping his nephew "refurbish" a Massey-Harris 22. He is looking for some decent fenders for this tractor. Anybody have any for sale, or good leads on where to find some?

Thanks,

Massey Harris grain drill setting

Lee Werth — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 19:22:53 GMT

Im looking for a copy of the settings for my grain drill im pretty sure its a model 20A any help would be great thanks Lee Werth