Interesting Brochure showing the wide front Challenger! I wonder what the chances are that is Johns tractor?


Also I thought I would post another picture of a Massey Binder. I dont know much about it but it looks like an older one!
 

No - that's not my tractor Tom - mine has got lugs on the rear wheels!  But it has the same size 10" wide steel rears as mine.  These 10" steel wheels are very rare I think - seem to remember that Dennis B told me he had only ever seen one set of them.

My grandfather had cultivators and ridging bodies for his Challenger like this, but the set ups were made by another company.  I seem to remember that my uncle told me one was made by Trafford Park Estates workshop very near the Manchester MH factory, and the other type were made by a company called Standens over in the east of England.  This discovery of Malcolm's makes a third company. 

The Challengers were fitted with mechanical lifts produced for Massey-Harris by Harry Makintosh of Forfar in Scotland.  My green wide front Challenger has one such complete lift assembly on it and it is the only one that I know of - but having said that another will surely come out of the woodwork!!!  The same type of lifts were fitted to wartime rowcrop MH tractors here

John

Tom,

Your photograph is a "Massey Harris No 2 Reaper", we know them here in England as a "Sail Reaper" They are a very intriguing machine to watch working and the operator has to be careful not to lean too much to his right, otherwise he get's a "bat around the ear". I have one up in the grave yard here and hopefully it is next in line for restoration after the Blizzard is finished.

John,

Interesting you mention Stanhay who are a very well known implement manufacturer here in  the south of England, I will attach photo's of a brochure I have of them selling the "Elwick Wheelless"  cultivator and ridger which was available for fitting to many different makes of tractor including the M-H GP. Joe really needs one of these ridgers for his GP, now he has a M-H potato digger all he needs is a M-H potato planter and he can grow some potatoes and harvest them in true Massey Harris style through to raosting them in the oven.

Malcolm.

Picked up another M-H potato digger last Saturday, it is surprising what pops up in an auction near Lincon less than 30 miles from my own doorstep.

Malcolm.

Great find Malcolm, Here is a plow I have been trying to identify for a while now. I have it narrowed down to two models I think. There is still some features I have not sen on a Massey before like the solid lift wheel.

Here are some more pictures I resized. I think it is either a #6A, or #19 Both of them are described as western style plows. and according to my MAssey ad on these they are really bragging how strong they are.

Does anybody know the difference in a #6A and #19?

Tom,  I am guessing the difference between a MH 19 Plow and a 6A is 13A if my math serves me correctly.  Nice thread going here, and to add to it I will try to add some prospective from Muscatine.  We have both a 2,and 3 bottom Pulverator Plow.  The 2 bottom was purchased by the family for use on my farm, to be pulled by one of the two G P"s we owned.  As one of Grandpa's stories go, while he was going to Ames College in 1918, and 1919. Now Iowa State University,  an engineering student, and good friend, in his dorm would later be employed by the General Implement Company of Racine. And he worked on the developement of the Pulverator Plow. I am sorry I do not recall his name, this story was told to me many years ago.  For you Joe, you asked where did they all go?  Many still exist today, however, the Pulverators have been removed.  On my farm Grandpa showed me years ago where he went out and plowed in the morning, and then a torrential rain came and took 5 inches of top soil off.  Years ago a set of two pulverators were out back of my shed.  A plow that my Great Grandfather had sold, had the pulverators removed for that reason, and we ended up with them. Sad, the scrapper got them along time ago.  The 3 bottom was bought at auction years ago.  Dad knows more on the subject so I will rattle his memory a bit. Well thats enough for now, the two fingers I type with are really tired.  Keep it up !!!!! Tim

Tim,

Great to hear from you and many thanks for posting that interesting Pulverator history, when I started the thread I was hoping to get you on here, hope your dad can remember a few more of your Grampa's Pulverator stories. Interesting to hear many of them got taken off and used as normal plow's.

Tom,

The only other M-H plow I have seen with a solid lift wheel is the "Grub Breaker" but they have round holes in the wheel and easily identified.
Hope someone can shed more information on the model and differences between them.

Malcolm.

Well I got a few part numbers off that 3 bottom Massey plow yesterday so if anybody runs across a parts list for the plows we might be able to figure out what it is.

To keep this implement thread moving along here are a few photographs of my 66 inch tread GP and No 10 sprayer at the East of England Show.

Malcolm.